[24. Receive presentation by CARTA (Capital Area Regional Tolling Authority) on the new agency's structure and the Yolo 80 Express Lanes project. (No general fund impact) (Kathleen Aziz) (Est. Staff Presentation: 5 min)]

THE CAPITAL AREA REGIONAL TOLLING AUTHORITY. WE'RE GOING TO GET A PRESENTATION ON CARTA.

YEAH. GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS. I'M KATHLEEN AZIZ. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CAPITAL AREA REGIONAL TOLLING AUTHORITY, OR CARTA. AND I WANT TO THANK CHAIR ALLEN FOR THE INVITE. IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING. I'VE KEPT MY SLIDES VERY BRIEF, BUT AS SUPERVISOR VILLEGAS CAN TELL YOU, TOLLING IS VERY COMPLICATED. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE THIS MORNING. CARTA IS A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY. SO WE'RE A NEW GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THE GREATER CAPITAL REGION. AND SO THE CHARTER WAS CREATED TO OPERATE WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE A NETWORK OF DIFFERENT TOLLED FACILITIES ACROSS THE GREATER REGION. AND SO THE BOARD IS STRUCTURED WITH CURRENT VOTING MEMBERS AND FUTURE NON-VOTING MEMBERS, SO THAT AS THE TOLLED FACILITY NETWORK EXPANDS OVER TIME, THOSE NON-VOTING MEMBERS CAN JOIN ONTO THE BOARD, AND THE BOARD'S REPRESENTATION REFLECTS WHERE EXPRESS LANES AND OTHER TOLLED FACILITIES ARE IN OUR REGION. SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE THREE VOTING MEMBERS OF CARTA THAT'S SACOG, THE SACRAMENTO AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, YOLO TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT AND CALTRANS. AND THEN THE FUTURE MEMBERS REFLECT THE OTHER COUNTIES ANTICIPATED TO HAVE TOLL FACILITIES LOOKING OUT IN THE 20 YEAR PLAN, WHICH IS SACRAMENTO, EL DORADO AND PLACER COUNTY. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS ON THE CARTA BOARD. YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE. AND SO I'VE LISTED FOR EACH OF THE VOTING MEMBERS ON THE CARD ABOARD WHAT WHAT THEIR SORT OF ELECTED OFFICE IS, BUT ALSO HOW THEY'RE APPOINTED. SO SOME OF THESE FOLKS, INCLUDING SUPERVISOR VILLEGAS, ARE APPOINTED THROUGH A DIFFERENT AGENCY WHO'S A MEMBER OF CARTA. SO I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR, FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC, THAT YOU'RE LOCALLY, LOCALLY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ARE THE ONES WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE CONVERSATION AND MAKING DECISIONS AROUND HOW TOLL FACILITIES WILL WORK IN THIS REGION. SO GOOD REMINDER TO EVERYBODY TO VOTE IN YOUR LOCAL ELECTIONS. SO TOP OF MIND FOR ALL OF US IS THE FIRST EXPRESS LANE PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN OUR REGION, WHICH IS THE YOLO 80 EXPRESS LANES PROJECT. IN THIS MAP, THE SOLID RED LINES REFLECT PHASE ONE. THAT'S WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT'S FUNDED.

THE HASHED GREEN SECTIONS ARE SHOW THE FULL EXTENT OF WHAT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY CLEARED, BUT THERE'S NO FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE SECTIONS AT THIS TIME. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S BEING BUILT OUT THERE IS WHAT'S SHOWN IN RED. AND SO WE'LL BE ADDING ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THAT WILL BE A TOLL LANE. I HAVE SOME HIGH LEVEL POINTS HERE. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING ELSE I SAY TODAY, I WANT TO SAY THAT EXPRESS LANES ARE ALL ABOUT CHOICE. SO THE THREE FREE LANES THAT WERE ALWAYS THERE ON THE CAUSEWAY WILL STILL BE THERE. BUT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN CHOOSING A MORE RELIABLE OPTION, THEY CAN USE THE NEW FOURTH LANE THAT LANE TOLLS WON'T START UNTIL 2028. SO THIS PHOTO HERE YOU CAN SEE SIGNS HAVE STARTED TO GO UP AS WE PROGRESS INTO CONSTRUCTION, BUT TOLLS WILL NOT BEGIN UNTIL 2028. FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE TO CARPOOL WITH AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THAT LANE FOR FREE, AS WILL TRANSIT BUSSES, WHICH WHICH HAVE MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE IN THEM. GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO IS USING FASTRAK IN THE BAY AREA, THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY INTEROPERABLE OR COMPATIBLE WITH THE SYSTEM HERE IN THE CAPITAL REGION. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT TRANSPONDER, THAT PLASTIC BOX IN YOUR WINDOW, THAT ONE WILL WORK JUST FINE. WHEN WE OPEN FOR TOLLS IN 2028, THERE'S NOTHING YOU'LL NEED TO DO. THE

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LANES WILL OPERATE 24 OVER SEVEN, AS YOLO COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE WELL AWARE, CONGESTION ON THE CAUSEWAY IS OFTEN JUST AS BAD ON THE WEEKENDS AS IT HAS AS IT IS DURING THE WEEK, AND CAN START VERY EARLY AND GO VERY LATE, DEPENDING ON PARTICULARLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH SEASONAL FLOWS UP TO TAHOE. SO THE 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATIONS HELPS US BETTER MANAGE THAT DEMAND FOR THE FACILITY ON OFF PEAK TIMES. AND THEN LASTLY, I ALWAYS GET THE QUESTION OF WHAT THE TOLLS ARE GOING TO BE. SO THE FACILITY WILL HAVE DYNAMIC PRICING, WHICH MEANS THERE'S NO PRESET TOLL AMOUNT. AND SO WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS, IS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN 45 MILES AN HOUR SPEEDS IN THE EXPRESS LANE. AND SO THE PRICE ADJUSTS OVER TIME, IN REAL TIME RESPONSE TO HOW MANY VEHICLES THERE ARE ON THE ROAD. THE IDEA IS, IF I'M GOING TO ASK WORKING CLASS FAMILIES TO GIVE UP THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY FOR A MORE RELIABLE COMMUTE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LANES ACTUALLY RELIABLE. SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF OF HAVING DYNAMIC PRICING TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT FACILITY. LONG TERM. THIS NETWORK IS FROM THE SACOG 20 YEAR BLUEPRINT. AND SO IT LOOKS OUT AT WHERE WE EXPECT EXPRESS LANES WILL BE OVER THE COURSE OF 20 YEARS. THERE'S A KEY HERE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPRESS LANES. BUT BUT REALLY, THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS THAT MOST OF THE URBAN HIGHWAYS IN THE REGION ARE LIKELY TO HAVE EXPRESS LANES IN THE FUTURE, EITHER BY CONVERTING CARPOOL LANES OR WIDENING TO ADD NEW LANES. A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S IN THE SACRAMENTO REGION AND THE LIMITED CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE ON OUR HIGHWAYS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP WIDENING THEM. IT'S ALSO NOT ALWAYS EFFECTIVE LONG TERM TO KEEP WIDENING AND WIDENING. AND SO EXPRESS LANES HELP US MANAGE THAT INCREASING DEMAND OF GROWTH AND PEOPLE AND JOBS AND HOUSING USING OUR EXISTING HIGHWAY ASSETS. SO ONE OTHER PROJECT I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE BOARD THIS MORNING IS THE NEXT PROJECT THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT IN YOLO COUNTY, BUT I KNOW PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITIES, WOODLAND AND COMMUNITIES NORTH, IT'S A CRITICAL CORRIDOR INTO DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS I-5. SO CALTRANS IS LEADING WORK TO LOOK AT ADDING A MANAGED LANE ON I-5 FROM THE COUNTY LINE, PAST THE AIRPORT DOWN TO DOWNTOWN AT THE US 50 INTERCHANGE THAT PROJECTS IN ENVIRONMENTAL RIGHT NOW, AND WE EXPECT THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT TO BE RELEASED IN EARLY 2027. AND SO THAT WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. SO CARD IS NOT IN THE LEAD ON DEVELOPING IT, BUT I WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH, WITH CALTRANS TO, TO SUPPORT THAT PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. AND SO WITH THAT, THIS IS MY CONTACT INFORMATION. IF ANY STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ANYTHFOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL MOVE TO BOARD QUESTIONS.

I'LL LOOK THIS WAY FIRST THING. NO. OKAY. SUPERVISOR BARAJAS, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. HOW DOES THE THE THREE PLUS PEOPLE GO FOR FREE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE BECAUSE I WAS DRIVING THROUGH 80 BY FAIRFIELD IN THE BAY, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FAIRFIELD AND OAKLAND. AND THIS WAS JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND THEN I CAN SEE LIKE A NUMBER ON TOP, RIGHT. AND IT DID IT PROPERLY IDENTIFIED ME AND MY WIFE, BUT NOT MY KIDDO IN THE BACK. SO I GOT CHARGED. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? SURE. SO EVERY TOLLING AUTHORITY'S RULES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. SO THE TRANSPONDER, THE TOLL TAG, THE BOX THAT GOES IN YOUR CAR OFTEN HAS WE CALL IT SWITCHABLE. IT HAS A LITTLE SWITCH ON THE BOTTOM THAT'S BLACK WHERE YOU INDICATE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE VEHICLE, ONE, 2 OR 3 PLUS. AND SO THE SYSTEM PINGS THAT BOX AND SEES WHAT YOU'RE SETTING IS AT. AND THAT'S HOW YOU DECLARE WHAT YOUR OCCUPANCY IS. AND SO CARTA SYSTEM WILL WORK THE SAME. WE'LL READ THE TAG AND SEE WHAT YOU'VE DECLARED IT TO BE. BUT CARTA WILL ALSO BE TAKING, AFTER WHAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN RIVERSIDE, AND HAVE A VERIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WILL USE THE SAME EQUIPMENT THAT'S LOOKING AT THE LICENSE PLATES TO CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THE SETTING IS ACCURATE FOR FOR WHAT'S IN THE CAR. AND SO SOME, SOME THINGS ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE THAN OTHERS, LIKE BABIES IN CAR SEATS OR SOME SORTS OF OTHER CHALLENGES, TINTED WINDOWS. AND SO THERE'LL ALSO BE A ROBUST CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER WHERE FOLKS CAN CALL UP AND EXPLAIN THEIR SITUATION.

AND THE IDEA IS TO BE CUSTOMER CUSTOMER FACING, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO BE PENALIZING FOLKS WHO ARE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THAT WORKED. I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, KATHLEEN'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE WITH A SET OF BINOCULARS. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. YEP. EXACTLY. THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THE INSIDERS PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW. BUT THESE ARE ALL UP AND DOWN THE STATE. THERE ARE TOLLING AUTHORITIES THAT ARE ALL MANAGED DIFFERENTLY. AND SO THE RULES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

AND SO THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING LITERALLY AT THIS MOMENT IS PUTTING TOGETHER INFORMATION AND DOING A PR CAMPAIGN TO ANSWER THESE EXACT KINDS OF QUESTIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE AUTHORITY ITSELF THAT

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DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE IT'S NEW FOR SOME, OTHERS GET IT. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE, SO IT'S PERFECT. OKAY, WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP ON TO THAT QUESTION JUST TO VERIFY ABOUT IN OUR FAMILY, WE CALL WE CALL THEM THE BOOMERS, OKAY, THE TRANSPONDERS, BECAUSE WE LIVED IN AUSTRALIA A LONG TIME AGO AND THEY HAD, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CALL THEM BOOMERS, BUT WE DID. AND THE WE AND WE HAVE THE IT HAS A LITTLE DIAL ON IT, BUT WE HAVE THE BAY AREA ONE, THE FAST TRACK. SO WILL THE THE OPENNESS OF OF CHANGING THE. TO. THREE WILL THAT ALSO WORK LOCALLY? YES. IT'S A STATE LAW. ALL TOLLING AUTHORITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE TO HAVE INTEROPERABILITY. I WILL JUST FLAG FOR. IF YOU HAVE HAD YOUR BOOPER OR TOLL TAG OR TRANSPONDER FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THERE'S AN OLDER VERSION WHERE THE BATTERY DOES DIE OUT.

SO KEEP AN EYE. IF YOU'VE BEEN GETTING EMAILS FROM BAY AREA FASTRAK TELLING YOU TO REPLACE IT, PLEASE DO SO BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IF YOUR YOURS DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T. YEAH, I DID RECENTLY GET SOMETHING AND I CHANGED IT. IT USED TO BE A LITTLE CLICKER THING, BUT NOW IT'S A DIAL THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR DIAL SO YOUR NUMBER THREE GETS COUNTED. AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION. SO I'M WONDERING IF WORK HAS BEEN DONE TO DETERMINE WHERE THE REVENUE, ONCE THE I-80 STARTS, WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE USED? IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE LOCALLY FOR DOES IT GO TO CALTRANS AND THEN USED ANYWHERE CALTRANS NEED IT TO THEIR GENERAL FUND? HOW IS THERE A BUDGETING PLAN FOR THE TOLLS THAT ARE RECEIVED? YEAH, SURE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT ALL TOLL REVENUE BE RETURNED TO THE CORRIDOR THAT IT CAME FROM. SO THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT I CAN CHANGE OR THAT ANYONE CAN CHANGE. SO I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE THAT CONFIDENCE THAT THE REVENUES FROM THE TOLL FACILITY WILL BE SPENT BACK INTO THE CORRIDOR WHERE THEY CAME FROM. AND SO PART OF THE REASON WHY CARTA WAS CREATED AS AN AS AN INDEPENDENT, LOCALLY CONTROLLED AGENCY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DECISIONS WERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND THAT THE FUNDS DON'T JUST FLOW UP INTO CALTRANS OR SOME SOME OTHER AGENCY. I'M WORKING WITH THE CARTA BOARD RIGHT NOW THROUGH A SERIES OF POLICY DECISIONS TO SET A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW TOLL REVENUES WILL BE SPENT. THERE'S A BIG PRIORITY FROM LONG TERM ON THE CORRIDOR AND WITH LEADERS IN THIS IN THIS COUNTY, TO USE THE REVENUES TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND IN ADJACENT COMMUNITIES. SO THAT WILL BE A FOCUS. BUT THE EXACT EXPENDITURES HAVEN'T BEEN DECIDED YET. SO FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED ARE, I'D LOVE TO HAVE FOLKS ENGAGE IN THAT CONVERSATION AT THE BOARD LEVEL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. HEY, KATHLEEN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS MORNING. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO SLIDE FOUR, WHICH IS THE MAP OF JUST THE CURRENT PROJECT AREA. YEAH. AWESOME. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. SO YES, SO THE TOLLING COMPONENT IS THE RED AREA OR WILL BE THE RED AREA, CORRECT? CORRECT. AT LEAST IN PHASE ONE, THE FOR THE CREATION OF THE ADDITIONAL LANE IN THE HATCHED AREAS IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING, THOUGH I THINK, IS THAT NOT CORRECT THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO END UP BEING A BASICALLY A, AN EXTRA FOURTH LANE? NOT. SO IT'S IT SAYS PHASE TWO. AND THAT'S SHOWING THAT THESE ARE NOT THERE, BUT ARE THEY I THEY HAVE CALTRANS HAS BEEN DOING THE PAVING WORK. AND IN THE HATCHED AREAS. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THAT THE TOLLING COMPONENTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE RED AREAS INITIALLY. BUT THE THE HATCHED AREAS WILL OPEN LATER. IS THAT I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT I APOLOGIZE. NO, NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE TRAVELING THIS QUARTER. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION HERE AND ACROSS THE RIVER AS WELL OVER THE LAST COUPLE SUMMERS. SO CALTRANS HAS ALSO BEEN DOING REHABILITATION AND OPERATIONS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN A VERY SIMILAR EXTENTS OF WHERE THE EXPRESS LANES WILL BE. SO SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT FOLKS ARE SEEING ON THE ROAD ARE TRANSITION LANES, SHOULDER WIDENINGS IT'S IMPROVEMENTS THAT CALTRANS IS DOING IN THE AREA THAT DON'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE EXPRESS LANE. SO SOME OF THE UPGRADES THAT YOU'LL SEE TO THE FACILITY, PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT, OTHER THINGS ARE PART OF THAT PROJECT ON THE OTHER SIDE. BUT TO CONFIRM, THE RED SECTIONS ARE THE SECTIONS THAT WILL BE TOLD. AND THEN JUST THE OBVIOUSLY THE COSTS HAVE CONTINUED TO GO UP, I MEAN, FROM ORIGINAL ESTIMATES AND SUCH. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THE I'LL JUST USE THAT EXAMPLE ON THE WEST SIDE. I MEAN THE.

WELL, EITHER SIDE EITHER, BUT THE MESA BOULEVARD TO RICHARDS BOULEVARD SEGMENT HEADING WESTBOUND, I MEAN THE. ANY IDEAS WHAT THE THE HATCHED AREAS WOULD COST TO DO TOLLING ON. I MEAN, LIKE, WHAT IS WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE COST TO DO TO FOR PHASE TWO? BASICALLY, AS I RECALL, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL, THE TOTAL COST FOR ALL PHASES WAS SOMETHING LIKE $450 MILLION. AND PHASE ONE IS LIKE $200 MILLION. SO A REMAINING 200 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS TO MOVE INTO PHASE TWO. AND JUST TO GIVE FOLKS A SENSE ON TIMING,

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THOSE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH FINAL ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, WHICH TAKES A FEW YEARS. SO EVEN WHEN THAT FUNDING COMES THROUGH, IT'LL BE A FEW YEARS TO DO FINAL DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THEN A FEW YEARS TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION. SO IT'S A WAYS OUT FOR FOR PHASE TWO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. WELL THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE ROOM? NO, MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT? WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? YES, SUPERVISOR VEGAS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, KATHLEEN, FOR YOUR WORK. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, KATHLEEN IS RELATIVELY NEW AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SHE'S THE FIRST APPOINTED BY THE BOARD. THIS IS ALL BEEN MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY, RELATIVELY QUICKLY. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE BOARD IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, ALL THE DECISIONS, ALL THE POLICY QUESTIONS, THE TIMELINES ARE ALL PLACED ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE THIS IS MOVING. I SAY QUICKLY, IT'S A HURRY UP AND WAIT RIGHT KIND OF THING.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. BUT JULY 1ST OF 2028 IS GOING TO COME VERY QUICKLY FOR SOME, MAYBE NOT QUICK ENOUGH FOR OTHERS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED RELATIVE TO THE FINANCING AND SORT OF THE THE WATERFALL, WE'LL CALL IT THAT, STILL IS ON THE WEBSITE. AND SO IT'S A REALLY, I THINK IT'S A GOOD WEBSITE IN TERMS OF FOR THOSE THAT ARE JUST SORT OF CURIOUS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT THE TIMELINE, WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO, ALL THE SORT OF THE POLICY DECISIONS AROUND KIND OF THE THREE PLUS QUESTIONS AND HOW THAT WORKS. THIS IS THE FIRST OF ITS TYPE IN TERMS OF THE JPA WITH CALTRANS WITH A SEAT. THIS IS THE FIRST. I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE ARE RUN BY MUNICIPALITIES AND JP THAT DON'T HAVE CALTRANS AT THE TABLE BEING A PARTNER.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL FOR US, GIVEN THAT CALTRANS MANAGES OUR HIGHWAYS. SO THIS IS WE'RE STILL SORT OF BUILDING THE PLANE, SO TO SPEAK. BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WE

[25. Receive update and provide feedback on draft Groundwater Work Plan for fiscal year 2026-27; receive and provide direction on staff recommendation regarding the County Hydrogeologist List; receive and provide direction on staff recommendation for the schedule of future updates to the Board. (No general fund impact) (Fieseler/Meneghetti) (Est. Staff Presentation: 10 min)]

WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM 25, RECEIVE UPDATE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON DRAFT GROUNDWATER WORK PLAN. HERE COMES APRIL AND OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE HALLWAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR ALLEN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, APRIL MENEGHETTI, DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. AND TODAY I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON AGRICULTURAL WELL PERMITTING AND OUR DRAFT WORK PLAN. ON AUGUST 25TH, THE BOARD RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON THE COUNTY'S AGRICULTURAL WELL PERMITTING PROGRAM AND VOTED TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM ON NEW AGRICULTURAL WELLS WITHIN THE ISGA FOCUS AREAS THROUGH AUGUST 25TH OF 2027. AT THAT TIME, BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING ALL NEW WELLS TO BE METER READY AND RETURN IN OCTOBER, WITH A DRAFT WORK PLAN OUTLINING THE TASKS AND MILESTONES TO BE COMPLETED DURING THIS MORATORIUM. SINCE AUGUST, STAFF HAVE HELD AGRICULTURAL WELL, PERMITTING GROUP WORKING GROUP MEETINGS.

THESE WERE ON SEPTEMBER 3RD AND OCTOBER 8TH. AT THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING, THE GROUP REVIEWED THE BOARD'S AUGUST DIRECTION AND PROVIDED INPUT TO STAFF ON WORK PLAN PRIORITIES. THE YMCA HOSTED THE MEETING ON OCTOBER 8TH, DURING WHICH THEY REVIEWED THE YOLO SUBBASIN GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, WALKED THROUGH THE WISEGUYS WELL PERMIT VERIFICATION PROCESS, AND RESPONDED TO COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS. THE ISGA ALSO INVITED THREE OUTSIDE HYDROGEOLOGISTS WHO PROVIDED INPUT DURING THE SGA'S PRESENTATION. STAFF HAVE ALSO CONTINUED OUR TECHNICAL WORK WITH LUDORF ON THE SEPARATION DISTANCE ANALYSIS, METER READY DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND HYDROGEOLOGICAL CONSTRAINED AREAS, OR HCAS. ADDITIONALLY, WE COMPLETED THE REVIEW OF THE HYDROGEOLOGIST RFQ RESPONSES AND FINALIZED THE DRAFT WORK PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. THE DRAFT WORK PLAN INCLUDES TEN MAJOR OBJECTIVES. THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE FIRST FOUR, EACH WITH ITS OWN TIMELINE AND ASSOCIATED BOARD ACTIONS. OBJECTIVE ONE FOCUSES ON, WELL, SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.

BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER, STAFF WILL WORK WITH LUDORF AND MANINI TO FINALIZE THE UPDATES TO THE WELL SEPARATION DISTANCE CHANGES, WHICH WILL INCORPORATE THE HCAS THROUGH AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WHICH WILL RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR ADOPTION. OBJECTIVE TWO FOCUSES ON THE

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HARDSHIP EXEMPTION REVIEW. THIS WILL OCCUR BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND JANUARY, AND STAFF WILL EVALUATE OUR CURRENT EXEMPTION AND RETURN TO THE BOARD IF REVISIONS ARE RECOMMENDED.

OBJECTIVE THREE FOCUSES ON THE WELL VERIFICATION PROCESS. DURING THIS TIME. NOVEMBER THROUGH JANUARY, STAFF WILL WORK TO CLARIFY THE COUNTY AND SGA ROLES AND DEVELOP UPDATED GUIDANCE. NO BOARD ACTION IS ANTICIPATED UNLESS POLICY CHANGES ARE NEEDED. OBJECTIVE FOUR FOCUSES ON THE HYDROGEOLOGICAL GEOLOGIST RFQ LIST. STAFF ANTICIPATE FINALIZING AND IMPLEMENTING THE LIST BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER. BOARD DIRECTION IS NEEDED TODAY REGARDING WHETHER THE LIST SHOULD BE A RECOMMENDED OR REQUIRED LIST. OBJECTIVES FIVE THROUGH EIGHT FOCUS ON LONG RANGE PLANNING AND INTERAGENCY COORDINATION. OBJECTIVE FIVE IS ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN ALIGNMENT. THE WORK IS PROPOSED TO EXTEND FROM APRIL THROUGH DECEMBER 27TH AND LIKELY BEYOND 2027, LIKELY BEYOND ANY RECOMMENDED ZONING OR GENERAL PLAN. AMENDMENTS WOULD RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR REVIEW AND DIRECTION. OBJECTIVE SIX IS AGENCY COORDINATION. THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT, AND STAFF WILL CONTINUE REGULAR COORDINATION WITH THE SGA. THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT, LUDORF AND ANY OTHER ASSOCIATED COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.

NO BOARD ACTION IS ANTICIPATED. OBJECTIVE SEVEN FOCUSES ON DEMAND MANAGEMENT AND WORK ON THIS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MID TO LATE 2025 2027. TO EVALUATE WHERE THE COUNTY CAN ALIGN EFFORTS WITH SGA'S EMERGING DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. BOARD INVOLVEMENT IS ONLY PREDICTED TO BE NEEDED IF NEW PROGRAMS OR TOOLS ARE REQUIRED. OBJECTIVE EIGHT IS SURFACE WATER AND RECHARGE OPPORTUNITIES. WORK WILL CONTINUE UNTIL LATE 2027 TO EVALUATE ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE COUNTY COULD SUPPORT, INCLUDING EVALUATING POTENTIAL CASH CREEK OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY WORKING GROUP MEMBERS. BOARD APPROVAL WOULD BE NEEDED FOR ANY FUNDING OR PROGRAMMATIC DECISIONS AND OBJECTIVES. NINE THROUGH TEN FOCUS ON DROUGHT, RESILIENCY AND PUBLIC OUTREACH. SO NINE IS THE DROUGHT RESILIENCY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, AND THIS WILL BE AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT IS TIED TO THE PLAN THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED IN MARCH OF 2026. STAFF WOULD PROVIDE CHECK INS TO THE BOARD EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SOONER IF NEEDED. OBJECTIVE TEN IS EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, AND THIS WORK PLANS TO SPAN FROM DECEMBER THROUGH AT LEAST AUGUST OF 2027, AND STAFF IS GOING TO BE WORKING ON DEVELOPING WORK, DRILLER AND GROWER FOCUSED MATERIALS, AND CONDUCTING PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND NO BOARD ACTION IS ANTICIPATED FOR THIS OBJECTIVE. THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES ALL THE TIMELINES AND CLEARLY OUTLINES WHEN BOARD ACTION WOULD BE REQUIRED. SO IN SUMMARY, FROM NOW UNTIL DECEMBER TODAY WE WILL BE ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON THE HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST ON THIS NOVEMBER 17TH AND DECEMBER 8TH. WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE THE BOARD WITH THE WELL SEPARATION ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE METER READY DESIGN. FIRST READING IS ANTICIPATED FOR NOVEMBER 17TH, AND SECOND READING WOULD BE ON DECEMBER 8TH. FROM NOVEMBER THROUGH JANUARY, WE'LL REVIEW THE HARDSHIP EXEMPTION AND THEN ALSO WORK ON THE WELFARE VERIFICATION PROCESS GUIDANCE. LIKELY TO HAVE AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD ON THIS AT THE LAST MEETING IN JANUARY. FROM APRIL THROUGH DECEMBER, WE WILL ANTICIPATE WORKING ON THE ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN REVIEW AND WOULD RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR ANY REVIEW OR DIRECTION NEEDED ONGOING, WHICH WE'VE PROPOSED TO BRING FORWARD UPDATES DURING BOARD. QUARTERLY BOARD CHECK INS WOULD BE AGENCY COORDINATION, DEMAND MANAGEMENT AND SURFACE WATER RECHARGE.

DROUGHT RESILIENCY PLAN IMPLEMENTATION AND EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. SO THIS BRINGS US TO THE HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST. IN RESPONSE TO CONCERNS RAISED BY THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD, STAFF INITIATED AN RFQ TO CREATE A LIST OF HYDROGEOLOGISTS WITH EXPERIENCE IN THE YOLO SUB-BASIN, FIVE FIRMS SUBMITTED RESPONSES AND ALL MET THE RFQ CRITERIA. THIS LIST WOULD APPLY WHEN THE COUNTY REQUIRES A HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT, WHICH IS PRIMARILY. WHEN A NEW AG IS UNABLE TO MEET THE REQUIRED WELL, SEPARATION DISTANCES OR IT'S INTENDED FOR HIGH CAPACITY

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PUMPING. THIS WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE REQUIRED REPORTS FOR A TIER TWO REVIEW. STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING MAINTAINING THE LIST AS A RECOMMENDED RATHER THAN REQUIRED LIST, WHICH PROVIDES APPLICANT FLEXIBILITY WHILE STILL OFFERING VETTED EXPERTISE TO ADDRESS CONCERNS REGARDING REPORT VALIDITY. STAFF ARE BRINGING FORWARD AN OPTIONAL PEER REVIEW. THE COST OF THIS IS ESTIMATED BETWEEN 500 TO $1000, AND THIS WOULD BE A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW FOCUSED ON DROUGHT DRAWDOWN IMPACTS. ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP AND SUBMITTALS WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES, AND THESE FEES WOULD BE PAID BY THE APPLICANT. GIVEN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS QUARTERLY BOARD UPDATES TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ALIGNMENT WITH BOARD EXPECTATIONS. WE WILL RETURN IN ADVANCE OF ANY MAJOR POLICY OR ORDINANCE ACTIONS, WHICH INCLUDES THE UPCOMING WELL SEPARATION ORDINANCE CHANGES AND ANY ZONING OR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGES. IN CLOSING, TODAY, STAFF ARE REQUESTING YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT WORK PLAN AS PRESENTED. DIRECTION ON WHETHER THE HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED OR REQUIRED, AND CONFIRMATION OF THE QUARTERLY UPDATE SCHEDULE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE AND ARE PREPARED TO ADJUST THE WORK PLAN ACCORDING TO YOUR DIRECTION, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS NOW. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS THIS WAY? VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL. ARE YOU NOT QUITE READY YET? OKAY, I'LL LOOK THIS WAY THEN. OKAY.

SUPERVISOR BARAJAS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, APRIL, AND ALSO ALL THE OTHER STAFF THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN ON THIS PRESENTATION AND WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES IN REGARDS TO THE OPTIONAL PEER REVIEW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD COULD BE ABLE TO MANDATE, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. THIS IS JUST AN OPTION STAFF THOUGHT WE SHOULD BRING BEFORE THE BOARD. SO YOU COULD MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE US TO IMPLEMENT. OKAY. WHETHER THE APPLICANT USE ONE OUT OF FIVE CONSULTANT COMPANIES OR SOME ANOTHER ONE OUTSIDE OF THOSE FIVE. CORRECT? YEAH. IT COULD BE REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY PICK, THEY HAVE TO DO A PEER REVIEW. OR IT COULD BE IF THEY PICK SOMEBODY NOT ON THE LIST, THEN THE PEER REVIEW IS REQUIRED. IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL WAYS TO DO THAT. AND IS IT COMMON? I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET INFORMATION. IS IT IS IT COMMON THAT SAY, IS IT LOOTERS? LUDORF. YEAH. LUDORF. THEY ON THE SIDE, THEY MIGHT HAVE. THIS IS WHERE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT LET'S JUST SAY ONE OF THE APPLICANTS HAS AN ONGOING CONTRACT OR BUSINESS WITH LUDORF OR THE, THE CONSULTANTS, THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT HAS SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT OR SOME BUSINESS ON THAT THAT IS GOING ON BETWEEN LUDORF AND THEM IN DIFFERENT CAPACITY. SO THE APPEARANCE COULD BE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMMON. DOES LUDORF HAVE BUSINESS WITH SOME OF THESE? COULD HAVE BUSINESS WITH SOME OF THESE APPLICANTS OR THE CONSULTANTS THAT THEY HIRED. LUDORF HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD WITH CHECKING WITH US IF THERE'S ANY PROJECTS THAT THEY THINK COULD BE PERCEIVED AS HAVING A CONFLICT. AND KIMBERLY HAS WEIGHED IN ON, ON THOSE REQUESTS. SO WE AS WE'VE GOTTEN THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. YEAH, I THINK GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. KIMBERLY HOOD, CHIEF ASSISTANT COUNTY COUNSEL. SO, YES. LUDORF. WE WE WORK WITH THEM FREQUENTLY AND THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERNS AT ALL TIMES. SO THAT'S ONE REASON THEY ARE NOT ON THE HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ENSURE THEY'RE WORKING FROM THE COUNTY AND PROTECTING THE COUNTY'S INTERESTS IN THE GROUNDWATER. SO WHEN THINGS COME UP, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE CONSIDER.

AND SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D EVALUATE IF THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE PEER REVIEW IN A PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE. BUT I THINK IN MOST INSTANCES IT SHOULD BE FINE. OKAY. SO WOULD THEY THEN FLAG IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS APPLICANT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY BUSINESS FOR SOMETHING ELSE WITH THEM, WE MIGHT NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE COMPANY CONSULTANT TO REVIEW PEER REVIEW THEIR APPLICATION. YES. THAT'S HOW THEY PRACTICE WITH US SO FAR ON OTHER INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD WORK THAT HAS COME UP, THAT THEY'VE WORKED WITH SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE PAST AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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SUPERVISOR FRERICHS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING DOWN THERE? OKAY. ANYTHING. THIS WAY. ALL RIGHT.

YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PONDER. I CAN MAYBE I'LL ASK MY TWO QUESTIONS AND THEN COME BACK.

OKAY. HI. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF ANYONE HAS UTILIZED THE HARDSHIP EXEMPTION YET. NO.

OKAY. AND FOR THE IS THERE PART OF THE POLICY FOR THE THE PROPOSED POLICY FOR THE HYDROLOGIST LIST? IS THERE A PROCEDURE FOR EITHER REMOVING A RECOMMENDED HYDROLOGIST OR ADDING SOMEBODY. I DON'T KIMBERLY, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT ONE? WELL, I THINK FOR NOW IT'S AN INITIAL LIST. AND THEN OUR PLAN AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE'RE THIS IS SORT OF A TRIAL PERIOD TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS. ONE, HOW MANY APPLICANTS DID WE RECEIVE? HOW DOES IT WORK IS SOMETHING WE'D EVALUATE PERIODICALLY. I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE MORATORIUM AND THEN WE'LL LIKELY REOPEN THE LIST. AND THEN YOU ALWAYS CAN REEVALUATE THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE LIST. ARE THEY REAPPLYING OR NOT? IS THERE ANY CONCERNS AND GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW APPLICANTS TO APPLY AS WELL AND BE ON THE LIST? GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T SAY. AND NOW, FOR NOW AND FOREVER, HERE'S THE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE. THERE WILL BE. YES, THERE WILL BE. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE DROUGHT RESILIENCY PLAN, WILL ANY OF THIS CHANGE IF WE HAVE IF AND WHEN THIS SUPER EL NINO HAPPENS? BECAUSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMMENT AT THE FARM BUREAU WAS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THINKS THERE'S A THERE'S A DROUGHT WHEN WHEN WE'RE PREPARING FOR A BIG. SO IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY CHANGE IF THERE'S SUDDENLY A LOT OF WATER AROUND THE. THE DROUGHT RESILIENCY PLAN IS TO PLAN FOR A FUTURE DROUGHT. SO OUR CURRENT WEATHER CONDITIONS DON'T REALLY HAVE A. SHOULDN'T HAVE A BEARING ON OUR PREPARATION FOR THE FUTURE DROUGHT WHEN IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS. THAT'S ALMOST WHAT I SAID. BUT YOU. GREAT. IF YOU WERE THERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY, THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS. MARY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YET? I DO. THERE MAY BE A QUESTION MARK AT THE END OF THIS. ACTUALLY, I THINK THERE IS. AT FIRST, I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO PUTTING TOGETHER THIS WORK PLAN. IT'S RESPONSIVE TO WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED AND HELPFUL TO SEE IT LAID OUT KIND OF AS WHAT'S THE SCOPE AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, THE SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM. AND THAT'S, I THINK, JUST EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. I'M, I RAN INTO ANNIE MAIN AT THE ART FARM EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND AND HAVE BEEN READING HER LETTER HERE. AND I CONTINUE TO, TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE, THE ISSUES AROUND NON PREVIOUSLY NON-IRRIGATED LAND AND DEFINITIONS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IS PREVIOUS? IS IT 20 YEARS, 50 YEARS, 150 YEARS? WHAT IS IT THE IMPACTS IN PARTICULAR PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

AND THIS IS THE SPACE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH IS G A AND HAVE TWO BY TWO. COMING UP, THAT SUPERVISOR BARAJAS AND I ARE PARTICIPATING IN TO CONTINUE TO, TO TO TRY TO TEASE OUT, IS THERE SOME KIND OF PROACTIVE POLICY THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO THESE PARTICULAR CONDITIONS OF WATER USE? AND, AND I KNOW THAT THIS THIS RELATES TO ZONING ISSUES. I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE PAST AND THAT WITH THE UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN COMING, I THINK IN FOUR YEARS, 2030 IS ROUGHLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BROUGHT UP THERE. AND IF WE HAVE A SUPER EL NINO AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF WATER AND EVERYTHING IS RECHARGED, GREAT, WE CAN WAIT THAT LONG. BUT IF THE WATER DOESN'T REACH THIS FAR AND WE CONTINUE TO DRAIN THE WATER OUT OF THE GROUND, IT. IT WILL CONTINUE TO EXACERBATE THAT VERY ISSUE. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE WE BEST POSITIONED TO GIVE CONSIDERATION TO KIND OF THE IMMEDIATE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US? I SUSPECT THE ANSWER IS, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TWO BY TWO IN THEIR MEETINGS AND THE ONGOING WORK WHILE WE HAVE THIS MORATORIUM. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE TABLE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE CONCERNS CITIZENS CONTINUE TO TO BE HERE AND TO, TO RAISE THESE ISSUES FOR OUR DISCUSSION AND ATTENTION. I JUST WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME COMMENT. YEAH, I YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WORK THAT THE CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE BEEN DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY AWARE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING. THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE AG WORKING GROUP. AND AS WELL AS I'VE MET WITH MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A GROUP SEPARATE FROM THAT, AND I HEAR THEIR CONCERNS. AND WE ARE

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CONSTANTLY EVALUATING HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. SO I JUST WANT TO ASSURE THOSE CONCERNS HAVEN'T FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ADAM OR KIMBERLY WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZONING QUESTIONS, GOOD MORNING. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

ADAM. DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS GROUP, WE HAVE MET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE WORKING GROUP. AND WE CONTINUE TO LISTEN, AS APRIL HAS SAID. BUT SOME OF THE OVERARCHING POLICY QUESTIONS NEED TO BE EXPLORED AS A WORKING GROUP AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY AT THE TWO BY TWO WITH THE SGA TO TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE WITHIN OUR ZONE DISTRICTS AND WHAT OUR GENERAL PLAN CALLS OUT FOR. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT IT'S ALL JUST PRO AG, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS AN AG COMMUNITY. GOT MY TRACTOR PIN ON TODAY. BUT YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GIANT POLICY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO WRANGLE WITH AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE OR PIECES OF A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, DEPENDING UPON COST. SO THAT'S ALL I'D LIKE TO ADD. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER BOARD HANDS, I'LL THEN MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND ADDITIONALLY WE RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM ANY WHICH HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS AS PART OF THE CORRESPONDENCE AND WILL BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD. MISS LINDA, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. ALL THIS TALK OF THE CONCERNED CITIZENS. AND NOW YOU HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF YOU. CAN YOU SCOOT OVER AND TALK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU AT HOME? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THAT'S BETTER. THANK YOU. JACKIE LUNDY.

I'VE OWNED MY FARM FOR 45 YEARS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL KINDS OF DROUGHTS WITHOUT PROBLEMS WITH THE WELL THAT I HAVE. BUT AS SOON AS THE ALMONDS MOVED IN TO US, WE'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. AND NOW THERE'S OLIVES IN ADDITION TO THAT. SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEXT DROUGHT. CONCERNED CITIZENS IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEXT DROUGHT. SO I'VE PUT TOGETHER AS A GROUP, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS IDEA OF LOOKING AT DOMESTIC WELLS AND TRYING TO MITIGATE AND NOT JUST MITIGATE, BUT REDUCE THE IMPACT OF DOMESTIC WELLS ON THE NEXT, NEXT DROUGHT, WHICH WE KNOW IS COMING. COULD BE NOT THIS YEAR, MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR, MAYBE IN THREE YEARS. BUT WE KNOW IT'S COMING AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO TRY TO SURVIVE AS A SMALL FARM WITH A SMALL WELL, WHEN WE'VE HAD ALL THESE VERY LARGE AG WELLS PUT IN RIGHT NEXT TO US, WHO ARE VERY LARGE PUMPERS. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL SURVIVE A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS, BUT WHO KNOWS WHO'S GOING TO SURVIVE IF THE AG WELLS CONTINUE TO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF ALLOCATIONS ON THEM IN A DROUGHT? SO THE PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE DROUGHT PLAN THAT I SENT TO ALL OF YOU IS DESIGNED TO BE PROACTIVE AND TO TRY TO TAKE THE TIME WE HAVE NOW WITH THE MORATORIUM AND PUT IN STEPS TO PROTECT THE DOMESTIC WELLS FROM THE AG WELLS IN A DROUGHT SITUATION. AND THE STEPS WE PUT TOGETHER ARE ALL VERY ACHIEVABLE STEPS THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THIS YEAR. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ACTUAL ACTIONS HAPPEN THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED, AND WE CAN SAY BY THE END OF THIS MORATORIUM, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE, AT LEAST ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DROUGHT RESILIENCY PLAN FOR THE COUNTY, THERE IS VERY LITTLE IN THERE ABOUT IMPACTS, ABOUT AVOIDING OVERDRAFTS. IT'S ALL ABOUT WE'LL BRING OUT WATER TO YOUR FARM SO THAT YOU CAN DRILL ANOTHER WELL, OR WE'LL GIVE YOU A BROCHURE ON HOW TO USE LESS WATER ON YOUR FARM. NONE OF IT IS DESIGNED TO PREVENT THE HARM THAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE AG WELLS HAVE NO ALLOCATIONS ON THEM. NEAR OUR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOUR TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD JUST AS A. OH THANK YOU. YOU SAY PUT UP THAT SLIDE AND THERE IT IS. THIS IS THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD TODAY. SO MAYBE WE'LL GO TO COMMENTS. AND IF YOU COULD FOCUS IN ON FEEDBACK ON DRAFT WORK PLAN DIRECTION ABOUT THE HYDROLOGIST LIST AND DIRECTION ON UPDATE SCHEDULE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT OR COMMENTS? SUPERVISOR VARGAS? I'LL START. I MEAN, I THINK FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR NOW, FOUR YEARS. I THINK THIS THE WORK PLAN REFLECTS

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TREMENDOUS, HUGE LIFT THAT WE'VE KIND OF DIRECTED HERE AND THAT STAFF HAS IMPLEMENTED PUTTING TOGETHER AND GIVES US A GOOD SEMBLANCE OF KIND OF WHAT'S COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE DRAFT PLAN. I LIKE THE SUGGESTION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS NOT MANDATORY ON THE HYDROLOGIST LIST APPROACH. AND THE PEER REVIEW COMPONENT, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IN MY EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH OPTIONAL PEER REVIEW FOR ALL THE REASONS IN THE EVENT THAT THAT'S NEEDED. AND I THINK THE PROVISION OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICTS IS ALSO IN OUR INTEREST AS WELL. AND THEN I THINK A SCHEDULE THAT STAFF HAS LAID OUT IN TERMS OF COMING BACK TO US ON A PERIODIC BASIS, BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING. THIS IS VERY DYNAMIC, MAKES SENSE AS WELL. SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT STAFF IS ASKING FOR APPROVAL FROM US TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT. LUCAS. YEAH. THANKS SO MUCH. A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, YEAH. THANK YOU, APRIL ESPECIALLY, BUT THE WHOLE STAFF TEAM FOR THE WORK ON THIS KIND OF CONTINUED WORK ON THIS, I THINK VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DRAFT WORK PLAN. I THINK A FEW KEY ITEMS THOUGH. SO ON THE HYDROGEOLOGIST ITEM. YEAH, I THINK RECOMMENDED LIST IS FINE, BUT I DO REALLY SUPPORT THE, THE PEER REVIEW BY, I THINK THE, IT'S KIND OF THIS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SORT OF LAYER OF, YOU KNOW, JUST LATER ADDED LAYER OF PROTECTION. I MEAN, THAT'S THE REAL REASON FOR DOING IT. YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY APPRECIATED SUPERVISOR BARAJAS QUESTIONS AROUND POTENTIAL CONFLICTS. SO I'M GREAT TO HEAR THE RESPONSE AROUND THAT. THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY JUST SORT OF IDENTIFIED WHEN THEY THINK THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A POTENTIAL RED FLAG THERE.

THEY ARE VERY UPFRONT ABOUT THAT. AND SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT WORK. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL SORT OF LAYER OF PROTECTION.

AND YEAH, THERE'S A BIT OF A COST TO IT. BUT I THINK THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS OF $100,000 AND DOING AN ACTUAL NEW BIG AG WELL, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL $500 POTENTIALLY IS, YOU KNOW, A FAIRLY SMALL ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS OVERALL TO SORT OF ADD INTO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR ESPECIALLY NEARBY NEIGHBORS AND SUCH. I THINK THE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS. I THINK AS IT RELATES TO THE, SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I MEAN, ONE ON, YOU KNOW, JUST ON THE LETTER AND THE COMMENTARY RECEIVED FROM ANNIE MAIN, I THINK I AM I KNOW I HEARD SUPERVISOR VICKI SANDY SAY THAT THERE'S AN UPCOMING MEETING. I THINK OF THIS, THE TWO BY TWO COMING UP. SO JUST WOULD LOVE FOR AT SOME POINT JUST TO HEAR EITHER HAVE THEIR WHAT MEETINGS HAVE OCCURRED AND OR JUST WHAT'S THE WHAT, WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING? OR JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT, CURIOUS ABOUT THE, IS THAT OR IS THAT A MEETING THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? I ASSUME SO, OR IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ATTENDANCE TO IT, BUT JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY ANNIE, YOU KNOW, ARE THAT THAT NEEDS TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY CONCERNED CITIZENS AT THE TABLE. AND I, I'VE SAID THIS TO HER PREVIOUSLY, I'VE SAID IT TO OTHERS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS ONCE YOU START TO ADD IN LIKE, WELL, THEN WE'RE ADDING THIS INTEREST GROUP. EVERY INTEREST GROUP SAYS, I WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND WHY NOT ME? AND SO IF SO, THAT'S THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE, OBVIOUSLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF EITHER THE TWO BY TWO WITH THE BOARD AND THE YMCA HAVE MET YET WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS. AND THEN ALSO OR IS IT OPEN TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND JUST AS TO LISTEN AND SUCH? SO I CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT ON TWO OF THOSE QUESTIONS. ONE IS THAT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TWO BY TWO SINCE WE WELL, SINCE WE LAST MET AND WE REPORTED ON THAT AT THE LAST COUPLE BOARD MEETINGS AGO AND IT'S SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE IT'S THE 30TH. I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. I WOULD PRESUME THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE BROWN ACT MEETINGS, BUT I'VE ASKED COUNCIL TO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT TO HERE WE GO. COUNCIL HAS COME TO THE MICROPHONE. I ASSUME SO, BUT I JUST ALSO WANTED TO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. SO I BELIEVE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A MEETING OF THE TWO AD HOCS. SO IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE. AGENDIZED. IT'S TWO MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE THE AD HOC FROM THEIR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THEN OUR TWO AD HOC MEMBERS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY OPEN. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE BOARD, THE SUPERVISOR SANDY AND SUPERVISOR BARAJAS ALREADY ATTENDED AN OPEN MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AT ISDA, AND THOSE ARE PLANNED TO CONTINUE. I BELIEVE THESE ARE MORE THE THE ANTICIPATED INTERNAL, YOU KNOW, QUICK MEETINGS IN BETWEEN THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS, AS YOU KNOW, AGENDIZE THESE AND GETTING THEM OPEN AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET CAN BE SOMETIMES A CHALLENGE. SO MY RECOLLECTION

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IS THAT THOSE THIS UPCOMING ONE WAS SCHEDULED AS A MEETING OF THE TWO AD HOCS TO BE FOLLOWED BY THEN FURTHER MEETINGS WHEN THERE'S MORE INFORMATION WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THE YMCA ON THAT. OKAY. THANKS, I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. SO, I MEAN, SO THE WHEN THE TWO MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF ESGR ARE MEETING, THOSE ARE AGENDIZED MEETINGS AND ANYONE CAN ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. YES, YES, YES. THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE YMCA IS AN AGENDIZED MEETING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THANKS, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN JUST PROBABLY FOR APRIL, QUICK QUESTION. JUST AROUND, PARTICULARLY THE THE, THE. SORT OF POINTS RAISED BY MISS LUNDY IN PUBLIC COMMENT. I MEAN, I THINK YOU PROBABLY ASSUME YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SORT OF THAT DRAFT PROPOSAL. IT'S ROUGHLY A PAGE LONG. I MEAN, JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THAT. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, ANY AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THE SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, VULNERABLE DOMESTIC WELLS. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, THERE'S A AMOUNT OF STAFF, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY ISSUES, I ASSUME, IN PART APPROACHING THIS ISSUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, WELLS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, RIGHT. AND THEN THE POTENTIAL OF US DOING SOME LIMITING THE SIZE, THE NUMBER SIZE AND PUMPING CAPACITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT JACKIE PUT TOGETHER YET. IT HASN'T BEEN SENT TO US.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, I'M UNABLE TO COMMENT ON THAT TODAY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. WELL, APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THAT. I THINK I'M GOOD IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. AND BEFORE WE GO TO ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTS, I FORGOT TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY. NO. CHAIR. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SUPERVISOR. YEAH. THANK YOU.

AND I GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PEER REVIEW PROCESS. SO WHAT IS THE CHARGE OF THE PEER REVIEW. DO THEY APPROVE, REJECT, MODIFY, ADVISE WHAT WHAT EXACTLY POWERS DO THEY HAVE AND DO THE APPLICANT HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT? OR IS IT JUST LIKE, OH, IT'S JUST A PEER REVIEW, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO NOT ADHERE TO IT. NO, THE THE POINT OF THE PEER REVIEW IS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A QUALIFIED HYDROGEOLOGIST REVIEW THAT REPORT AND PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT. IF IT DOES NOT, THEN THE FEEDBACK WOULD GO TO THE APPLICANT AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE DEFICIENCIES ARE. AND THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THEIR WELL PERMIT APPLICATION. JUST TO TO ADD TO THAT VERY BRIEFLY, I THINK WE WOULD OUR STAFF TEAM SEES THE PEER REVIEW AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR COUNTY STAFF REVIEW, SO IT EFFECTIVELY, THE PEER REVIEW WOULD SERVE AS OUR TECHNICAL EXPERTISE AND AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR STAFF TEAM FOR COUNTY FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS BACK TO THE APPLICANT ON THEIR APPLICATION THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS IF THERE WERE COMMENTS FROM THE GALLAMINI TO BACK TO THE APPLICANT, THEN THE EXPECTATION REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THEIR ANALYSIS TO REFLECT THOSE COMMENTS FROM LUDORF. FOR SOME REASON, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T DO THE MODIFICATIONS. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? THE PERMIT WOULD BE DENIED. DO THEY HAVE AN APPEAL PROCESS AFTER THAT? THERE'S YES, THERE'S AN APPEAL PROCESS, AND WE ADDED THAT THROUGH ONE OF OUR RECENT ORDINANCE CHANGES. THE FIRST APPEAL WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD WOULD BE THE AVENUE OF LAST RESORT. OKAY. DOES ARE ALL APPLICATIONS. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE THEY'RE PUBLIC. CORRECT. YES. YOU CAN SEARCH FOR ANY APPLICATION ON OUR ONLINE FILING SYSTEM. WE HAVE A DIRECTIONS AND A LINK TO THAT ON OUR WEBSITE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD, WE HAVE ONLY AS A COUNTY REQUIRED A HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT A HANDFUL OF TIMES IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. SO THIS IS A VERY OUR OCCURRENCE. SO I JUST WANT TO CAVEAT THAT I DIDN'T MENTION THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT. OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY REGARDING CONJUNCT CONJUNCT CONJUNCTIVE USE. YEAH. ON PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND SOME EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED, WHERE IS THAT PROPERLY ADDRESSED THROUGH THE SGA? OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT JUST A RECOMMENDATION OR IS THAT IS THAT IS THAT LEGALLY? I MEAN,

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IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE REVIEW FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDERS. AND OUR REVIEW OF THE WELL PERMIT APPLICATION CONJUNCTIVE USE IS WHEN AN APPLICANT IS USING SURFACE WATER IN ADDITION TO A WELL. AND SO THE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE YSGS REVIEW WHEN THEY DO A TIER TWO REVIEW. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CONSIDER AND CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE YEARS IN WHICH A DROUGHT IS OCCURRING AND SURFACE WATER CAN'T BE USED.

AND WELL WATER ONLY WELL WATER IS USED. AND WHAT THAT IMPACT IS THERE. SO CONJUNCTIVE USE IS IS MORE IN THE REALM OF WHAT THEIR REVIEW INVOLVES. AND I'LL LET KIMBERLY ADD I WAS JUST EXCUSE ME, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ON THE CONJUNCTIVE USE. I THINK IT IS IN THE IGAS POCKET.

I WILL JUST ADD THAT ON OUR END, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IS IN THE WELL VERIFICATION PROCESS PIECE. SO ONE PIECE OF THAT THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST IS THE SGA HAS APPLICANTS FILL OUT A FORM AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT GUARANTEED WATER, THAT THEY IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SURFACE WATER, THEY'LL UTILIZE THAT. AND THEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS HOW THAT APPLIED IN OUR PERMIT RESTRICTIONS. SO WE'RE EVALUATING, ADDING, ENSURING THAT THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO THE PERMIT THAT THE COUNTY ISSUES SO THAT THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY IN THE VERIFICATION PROCESS. OKAY. IF THIS BODY WAS TO EVER REVIEW OR JUST ENTERTAIN OR JUST JUST TO GET INFORMATION REGARDING AN ALLOCATION PLAN, WHERE WOULD THAT FIT IN THIS PROCESS? SO I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL BE IN THE THAT'LL BE SOME OF IT IN THE LONGER TERM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ALLOCATIONS ARE A VERY SIGNIFICANT STEP IN GROUNDWATER REVIEWS. AND SO THAT WILL PRIMARILY BE IN THE SGA. THE SGA IS THE AUTHORITY WITH THE TO IMPLEMENT WATER ALLOCATIONS, BUT THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY AS WE LOOK AT THE AGENCY COORDINATION. IT WILL ALSO COME INTO PLAY SOME WITH WELL VERIFICATION PROCESS.

AGAIN, PART OF THE SGA'S ACKNOWLEDGMENT FORM IS THAT NEW APPLICANTS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE COULD BE SUBJECT TO ALLOCATIONS. AND SO SOME OF THAT, AGAIN, WILL BE WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT IN SHORING UP OUR PERMIT VERIFICATION AND WHAT WE ISSUE AS THE RESTRICTIONS SO THAT APPLICANTS ARE IT'S CLEAR TO THEM IT'S NOT JUST THE SGA ACKNOWLEDGMENT, BUT WITH THE PERMIT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL ALLOCATIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT. JUST GOING BACK, I'M IN SUPPORT OF A PEER REVIEW FOR ALL APPLICATIONS. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE. JUST LOOKING ALSO AT ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IF THEY ARISE JUST TO BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY. SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE AVOID THAT ANY TYPE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND REGARDING I KNOW THAT I GUESS STAFF HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW JACKIE LUNDY'S EMAIL OR ANY MEANS, MAYBE ANY MEANS. I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF RESPOND BACK WHEN THEY HAVE TIME AND IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO ARISE, LIKE TO THE BOARD FOR SOME TYPE OF POLICY DIRECTION, SHOULD COME BACK SOMETIME IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, I'M SORRY, IN NOVEMBER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE, WELL, SEPARATION AND THE UPDATE WORK PLAN AS WELL. OKAY. YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT ON THE NOVEMBER 17TH AGENDA. GREAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I SEE TWO STAFF MEMBERS TRYING TO POP UP THERE. DID YOU KNOW KIMBERLY? OKAY. KIMBERLY JUST SAID WHAT WE WERE GOING TO SAY. OKAY, WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN THE NOVEMBER 17TH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHEN I HAVE ONE OTHER JUST A QUICK SITE ASSOCIATED ITEM. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS. AND SO FOR FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD LONGER, I'LL LOOK TO SPECIFICALLY SUPERVISOR VILLEGAS, BUT STAFF MAY KNOW TO LIKE, HAVE WE EVER HAD A KIND OF A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD OF THE YOLO FLOOD CONTROL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT? WE APPOINT THOSE FOLKS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I MEAN, I, I JUST I THINK I MEAN, IT GOES ALONG, IT'S IN THE SAME VEIN OF THE LIKE TWO BY TWO KIND OF APPROACH, WHICH IS A BIG WITH, WITH THIS BOARD AND THE SGA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THIS 26 MEMBER BOARD, A VERY BIG BOARD, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE APPOINT THE THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT FOLKS. AND THAT'S A FANTASTIC BOARD OF FOLKS. I JUST I THINK, AND I KNOW WE CAN'T DO AN INFORMAL MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, TWO BY TWOS OR WHATEVER. I GET ALL THAT. BUT SO THEN I WOULD ASK FOR US TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY SOME SORT OF AGENDIZED MEETING BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THAT BOARD SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT GROUP IS SO ESSENTIAL IN THE. IT'S NOT JUST A YOGA THING LIKE THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. AND IT'S LIKE, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE EACH APPOINT HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEE AND WE PROBABLY TALK TO OUR APPOINTEES

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OCCASIONALLY, BUT LIKE WE'VE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I'M AWARE OF ANYWAY TO HAVE LIKE A FORMAL KIND OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE ISSUES FACING THE DISTRICT. CERTAINLY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES FACING THE DISTRICT, BUT ALSO JUST WATER ISSUES, KIND OF A LARGER, LARGER SCALE WATER ISSUES IN YOLO COUNTY THAT BETWEEN THESE TWO. AND IT IS A, YOU KNOW, SISTER AGENCY. IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A SUBSIDIARY AGENCY AS WELL TOO. SO JUST ANYWAY, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST RAISE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. AND YES, WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATES AND IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN TILL NEXT YEAR OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE JUST REALLY LIKE TO RAISE WITH COLLEAGUES THE POSSIBILITY OF JUST, JUST, JUST DISCUSSIONS AROUND WATER. LIKE NOT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AROUND THIS KIND OF SUBJECT MATTER. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON IT. THEY HAVE TO IN SOME WAYS, BUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR OBVIOUSLY, VARIOUS INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO JUST PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, THE WATER TO A BUNCH OF AG USERS. I KNOW IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT MIGHT BE RIPE FOR US TO HAVE AN, A MORE FORMAL CONVERSATION WITH A SORT OF BOARD TO BOARD CONVERSATION. SO I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT WITH FOLKS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN ONE EVER BEFORE, OR IF FOLKS FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE ONE, BUT I WANT TO JUST RAISE THAT. YEAH. MARY. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO PLUS ONE THAT I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK THAT THIS WATER IS GOING TO BE ON THIS AGENDA FOR A LONG TIME. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY USEFUL CONVERSATION. SO PLUS ONE. PLUS TWO. SO THAT'S FOR LONG, LONG RANGE PLANNING AND FOR FIGURING OUT. YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. SUPERVISOR REYES, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST JUST A FINAL COMMENT, I THINK FOR ME. WATCHING THIS EVOLVE FROM THE DAIS HERE, THIS HAS BECOME A SIGNIFICANT INITIATIVE FOR THE COUNTY FOR GOOD REASON. BUT I DO WORRY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES, NONE OF WHICH HAVE CHANGED. THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES IN STATUTE AND OTHERWISE ARE OBLIGATIONS. THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO THE STATE AND TO US TO MAINTAIN ALL THE ALL THE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. AND SO I JUST AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT TODAY, GIVEN IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT OUR BUDGET DOESN'T LOOK ANY BETTER NEXT YEAR, SOME OF THESE MILESTONES IN THE WORK PLAN ARE ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE TO SOME DEGREE. AND I JUST WOULD LOOK TO MIKE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND OTHERS, CERTAINLY APRIL'S OFFICE, THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR AT LEAST SOME TEMPORARY. AND I KNOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CAPACITY FOR INCREASING RESOURCES, BUT AT LEAST TEMPORARY NATURE IN LIGHT OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. IT'S A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK TRYING TO COORDINATE A LOT OF THIS IS I SAW COORDINATION SORT OF UNDERSCORED. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. AND I JUST WONDER IF AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT EVEN TEMPORARY RESOURCES MAY LOOK LIKE TO HELP APRIL'S OFFICE KEEP THIS THING GOING, BECAUSE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED NOW SPECIFIC DATES. AND SO A LOT OF THIS STUFF, THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET UPDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH A LOT OF THIS. I JUST I WOULD JUST DEFER TO MY YOUR OFFICE. WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS IT NOW. I DON'T, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO PUT ON THE TABLE THE NEED FOR AT LEAST TEMPORARY RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ON TIME AND ON BUDGET, SO TO SPEAK, WITH, WITH WORK PLAN WE JUST IDENTIFIED. SO YEAH, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN, JUST IN TERMS OF THE RECOGNITION OF THE WORKLOAD AND BANDWIDTH, YOU KNOW, OF, OF OUR STAFF TEAM AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH DIRECTOR FESSLER AND ALSO WITH COUNTY COUNSEL AS HIS OFFICE IS VERY MUCH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM KIMBERLY'S, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK HERE TODAY, ALSO VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS WITH THE TEAM. SO I'LL ENGAGE WITH BOTH DIRECTOR FESSLER AND COUNTY COUNSEL WITH PHIL TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ARE THERE NEEDS, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL RESOURCE NEEDS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT IN ORDER TO TO COMPLETE THE TIMELINE HERE THAT'S LAID OUT, BUT ALSO JUST TRYING TO ANTICIPATE BEYOND THAT, BEYOND THE MORATORIUM DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, WHICH CAN ONLY GO TO A CERTAIN DATE, RIGHT. BUT A LOT OF THIS WORK IS GOING TO CONTINUE FORWARD. AND, AND WE NEED TO DO, I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF JUST THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THAT. JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES ALIGNED TO MATCH WITH THE BOARD DIRECTIVES AND PRIORITIES ON THIS. SO I'LL ABSOLUTELY ENGAGE IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT TO VERIFY WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, AND I HEARD SUPERVISOR BARAJAS SAY SOMETHING SLIGHTLY

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DIFFERENT FOR THE HYDROLOGIST LIST. THE FIVE QUALIFIED FIRMS THAT MET THE REQUIREMENTS, THEY WERE EVALUATED BY. LSC ALREADY, CORRECT? YES. SO THE THE RESPONSES WERE EVALUATED BY COUNTY STAFF AS WELL AS. AND WE ASKED FOR THE REVIEW AND INPUT AS WELL. SO FOR THOSE FIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND GOING FORWARD, UNTIL WE CHANGE IT, THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL PEER REVIEW BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED. SO. OR WOULD THEY BE REVIEWED SPECIFIC TO THE WELL, PERMIT STAFF DO NOT FEEL THAT THAT THAT IS THE CASE. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS BEEN CLEAR THROUGHOUT THAT WE HAVE CONFIDENCE ON ANY HYDROGEOLOGIST THAT PRODUCES A REPORT. THEY ARE LICENSED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THEY STAMPED THE REPORT WITH THAT SEAL. WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT ANY REPORT WOULD BE DEFENSIBLE LEGALLY, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONTINUING CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT ANY HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT THAT IS BEING PRODUCED, AND WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT EVEN SOME OF THOSE THAT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, THERE COULD BE CONCERNS FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THOSE FIRMS AS WELL. SO WE REALLY WANT TO GIVE THAT DECISION UP TO THE BOARD AS TO WHEN A PEER REVIEW WOULD BE REQUIRED. IF, IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. OKAY. SO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY? AND WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE DIRECTION FOR THE HYDROLOGIST LIST WAS JUST THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLEAR ON THIS ALSO THAT THE THIS LIST OF FIVE IS MET THE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN EVALUATED AND THAT IT WILL BE OPTIONAL, NOT MANDATORY. AND IF A FARMER OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S DIGGING A WELL OUT THERE WANTS TO USE A DIFFERENT FIRM HYDROLOGIST, THAT IT WOULD, THEY WOULD THEN GO THROUGH THE PAY THE 500 TO $1000 FOR THE PROCESS. WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE MOST LOGICAL CHOICE. OKAY, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL. YES, GO AHEAD, BECAUSE I WANT TO WRITE NO DIFFERENT. I HAD DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, MULTIPLE STAFF. SO THAT'S NOT MY INTERPRETATION. THE INTERPRETATION THAT I RECEIVED WAS THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ULTIMATE DECISION. AND IT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT THE FIVE COULD NOT GET A PEER REVIEW. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WAS THAT THE LIST BE A RECOMMENDED LIST WITH THE OPTION OF THE BOARD REQUIRING A PEER REVIEW, BUT STAFF DID NOT GIVE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHEN A PEER REVIEW WOULD BE REQUIRED. THAT WOULD. OH WELL, I GREAT, SO I, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE. SO WHAT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD THAT WE SHOULD, EVERY, EVERY CONSULTANT SHOULD HAVE A PEER REVIEW. AND I CAN JUSTIFY MAYBE WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF.

I THINK THAT WAS FINE. I MEAN, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. I MEAN, THIS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT SOMEBODY, IF A HYDROGEOLOGIST IS REQUIRED FOR THAT, THEY ABOUT THEN THERE WOULD BE A PEER REVIEW OF THAT HYDROGEOLOGIST I IT'S FINE IF THERE'S, IF IT'S ONE OF THE FIVE THAT'S ON THE OFFICIAL LIST THAT WE'VE KIND OF VETTED, OR IF IT'S AN OUTSIDE HYDROGEOLOGIST. BUT THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO HAVE, I MEAN, AN ADDED LAYER OF PROTECTION, LIKE, LIKE THERE'S, IT FEELS LIKE THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO. I MEAN, THE WHOLE POINT WAS BECAUSE AS I, I MEAN, I RAISED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS THE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN APPLICANT AND YOU GO PAY A HYDROGEOLOGIST, IS THE HYDROGEOLOGIST GOING TO COME BACK WITH A FINDING THAT IS, IS COUNTER TO THE FINDING YOU'RE PAYING THEM TO TRY TO FIND. I MEAN, I MEAN, I OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO UPHOLD. YES, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR PROFESSION. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IF YOU ARE PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO A REPORT FOR YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A FINDING TO THE REPORT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

AND, AND, AND SO HAVING THE HAVING THE PEER REVIEW IS A, A, A SAFETY CHECK BY THE COUNTY THAT, THAT WE TRUST. AND THEY'VE ALREADY AND THANKFULLY, WE HEARD ABOUT THE ISSUES OF POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT THAT THOSE THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED THAT THE COMPANY DOES A PEER REVIEW ON WHATEVER HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT IS PERFORMED FOR AN APPLICANT. THE CEO WANTED TO LET HIM JUMP IN THERE. HE WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, AND THEN I CAN COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. MIKE. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE SORT OF THE, THE PRE-QUALIFICATION PROCESS, I THINK THE IDEA THERE WAS TO BASICALLY MAKE IT A BIT EASIER FOR AN APPLICANT TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S FIVE HYDROGEOLOGISTS THAT ARE THAT THE COUNTY IS DEEMED TO BE QUALIFIED, AND IT

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GIVES THEM MAYBE SOME GREATER ASSURANCE IF THEY END UP, IF THEY END UP IF THE APPLICANT ENDS UP SELECTING ONE OF THOSE FIRMS THAT THEY'RE SELECTING SOMEONE WHO IS COMING AT THIS WITH A LEVEL OF COMPETENCE IN OUR REGION. NOW, THAT SAID, I THINK OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT AN APPLICANT WOULD HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO PICK ANYONE ELSE IF THEY DIDN'T WANT LIKE ONE OF THE FIVE. AND THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THEIR PREROGATIVE. BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S EITHER A PEER REVIEW PROCESS AND PRESENTING THAT QUESTION TO YOU AS THE BOARD AS TO, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE PEER REVIEW MANDATORY OR OPTIONAL? AND I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING THUS FAR IN THE CONVERSATION IS BELT AND SUSPENDERS. LET'S MAKE IT REQUIRED. AND THEY REPRESENT LUDORF REPRESENTS THE COUNTY IN OUR REVIEW OF WHATEVER HYDROLOGISTS REPORT IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. OKAY, SO THEN BACK TO YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? YEAH. SO IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS, IS IT'S NOT A DIRECT RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF SAYING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T ASK FOR A PEER REVIEW ON THE FIVE.

SO IT'S, IT'S FOR FOR I GOT THAT WRONG. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE STAFF IS COMING TO US. MY INTERPRETATION IS COMING TO US AND ASKING US, SHOULD WE HAVE A PEER REVIEW FOR ANY CONSULTANT THAT THEY USE, THE APPLICANT USES. AND I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR FRERICHS BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR FOR ALSO THE CONSULTANT THAT'S BEING USED, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A PREVIOUS CONSULTANT ON THAT ON THIS LIST OF FIVE WHO GOT CHALLENGED AND BEAT UP AND IN SOME CAN SAY, RIGHTFULLY SO, BY CERTAIN GROUPS OF THE COMMUNITY AND UC DAVIS RESEARCHERS AND ETC. SO FOR PROTECTION FOR EVERYBODY, THE BEST SET OF EYES IS AN ADDITIONAL SET OF EYES COMING FROM THE COUNTY PEER REVIEW FOR ALL THE APPLICATIONS MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M JUSTIFYING IT THAT WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE WERE. SO WE HAVE TWO OVER HERE THAT AGREE WITH THAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO YES, PLEASE. YEAH. JUST JUST A, JUST A PROCESS QUESTION. SO, SO THE SO I GUESS TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, SO WHO PAYS FOR THE PEER REVIEW? THE APPLICANT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR IT AS PART OF THE PROCESS. JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE PROCESS INCLUDES THE APPLICANT WHO WOULD DECIDE OR NOW PRESUMABLY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS INDEPENDENT PEER REVIEW OF THEIR APPLICATION TO THE COUNTY. WE'RE STILL DOING OUR OWN REVIEW INTERNALLY, IN ADDITION TO THE PEER REVIEW, WHICH KIND OF SUPPORTS THE APPLICATION, AT LEAST ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON IT.

RIGHT. AND THE. YEAH. SO SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS ONLY WHEN AN APPLICANT AND A WELL CANNOT MEET THE MINIMUM WELL SEPARATION DISTANCES OR IS PROPOSING A HIGH CAPACITY WELL BEYOND THE, THE WELL SEPARATION TABLE. SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE COUNTY REVIEW WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. WELL SO YES. SO WE WOULD STILL DO OUR NORMAL REVIEW REGARDLESS. AND THEN IF THEY CAN'T MEET THOSE THE WELL SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS THEN WE WOULD TELL THEM YOU HAVE TO NOW PRODUCE A HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT. AND WE WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYWHERE ELSE THEY COULD MOVE THE WELL, YOU KNOW, OR IF THEY WANT TO DO A SMALLER PUMPING CAPACITY. WELL, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT AND THROUGH THOSE EFFORTS, IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THEY THEY JUST CAN'T DO THAT, THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE YOU HAVE TO GET A HYDROGEOLOGIST REPORT. AND HERE'S A LIST. AND DEPENDING ON THE DECISION TODAY, THIS IS YOU EITHER HAVE TO PICK SOMEBODY OFF THIS LIST OR WE RECOMMEND YOU PICK SOMEBODY OFF THIS LIST. AND THEN ONCE THEY PRODUCE THAT REPORT THAT'S PROVIDED TO LUDORF. AND, AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THEIR REVIEW FEE AT THAT TIME, RIGHT? THAT'S OKAY. AND THAT'S UNIVERSALLY UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT THAT WAY. AND THEN, BUT, BUT THE COST WOULD BE BORNE BY THE APPLICANT IN THESE RARE, RARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHEREBY THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS ARE NOW APPLIED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR. I WOULD JUST ADD I THINK I'VE BEEN READING ABOUT THE DRYING UP OF THE OGALLALA. AQUIFER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY. I THINK THERE ARE SEVEN DIFFERENT STATES BETWEEN SOUTH DAKOTA AND TEXAS THAT ARE DRAWING A LOT OF WATER OUT OF THE GROUND, AND THEY CAN'T BE REPLENISHED FAST ENOUGH. AND IT'S A CAUTIONARY TALE. I THINK CALIFORNIA WITH SIGMA IS AHEAD OF THE GAME. AND WITH THAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH Y S, G A GIVES US THE GIVES US THE POTENTIAL AT LEAST TO RIDE

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ALONGSIDE THIS BEFORE IT COLLAPSES UNDER US. SO I THINK EVERY PROTECTION WE CAN SEEK AND SECURE FOR THE FUTURE WATER SOURCE, WE SHOULD VOTE YES FOR TO THE EXTENT THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN. IT'S FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR TO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, TO OUR ECONOMY, TO OUR ABILITY TO LIVE IN THIS STATE, GENERATIONS TO COME. SO I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO I SUPPORT WHAT HAS EVOLVED HERE AS A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF PEER REVIEW. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAD ONE COMMENT AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION UP HERE. SO WE'RE ALL WE IT APPEARS AS THOUGH WE HAVE LANDED WITH. IF IN THE EVENT THAT THERE HAS TO BE A HYDROLOGIST, THAT EVERY HYDROLOGIST WILL HAVE A SECOND SET OF EYES ON IT WITH OUR CONSULTANT. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HEARING. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. OKAY, GOOD. AND THEN I WAS JUST WANTED JUST A GENERAL COMMENT KIND OF ALONG MARY'S LINE IS THAT I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WORRIED ABOUT LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY. I THINK EVERYBODY IS OR SHOULD BE. AND I HAVE BEEN A LITTLE FRUSTRATED THAT THAT THE LEVERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE NOT OUR LEVERS FOR A LOT OF THINGS. IT'S YSGA. THAT WAS THE WAY THAT IT WAS CREATED IN CALIFORNIA. AND SO THE, THE TWO BY TWO, I REALLY SUPPORT AND CONTINUED WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, IF THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CONTINUE THE, THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, YSGA IS THE ONE WHO HAS MOST OF THE LEVERS FOR FOR THIS AND NOT US. AND SO WITH THE CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE. AND JUST A LITTLE SIDE COMMENT THAT I WONDER WHY WE DID THE RFP, SINCE NOW ANY HYDROLOGIST WILL HAVE THE SAME. YOU CAN. I MEAN, HERE'S, HERE'S A LIST. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME REVIEW ANYHOW. YEAH. AND I THINK I THINK THERE IS THERE IS VALUE TO US HAVING DONE THE RFP INSOFAR AS IT ALLOWED US TO IDENTIFY A SET OF HYDROGEOLOGISTS. I THINK THAT THAT SORT OF PASSED MUSTER, IF YOU WILL, BASED ON OUR REVIEW AND THE REVIEW AND REVIEW OF HAVING THE QUALIFICATIONS TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK WITHIN OUR REGION AND HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE, IF YOU WILL, IN THEIR CAPABILITIES TO DO THAT WORK THAN SAY, YOU KNOW, PICKING SOMEONE FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHO MAY NOT HAVE I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICAL HERE THAT HAS NEVER WORKED IN THIS REGION BEFORE, MAY NOT UNDERSTAND ALL THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE IN THE NUANCES THAT NEED TO BE FACTORED IN. NOW, THAT SAID, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE FIVE FIRMS, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE THAT WE DEEM THEM PERFECT. SO HENCE THE PEER REVIEW ALLOWS FOR THAT.

EXCUSE ME, ALLOWS FOR THAT, THAT BACK AND FORTH TO HAPPEN TO MAKE SURE THE END PRODUCT REALLY IS VERY, VERY SOUND. BUT IT GIVES THE APPLICANTS AT LEAST A STARTING PLACE IF THEY DON'T OTHERWISE KNOW WHERE TO START. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M A FARMER. I WANT TO APPLY FOR A NEW WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HYDROLOGIC HYDROGEOLOGISTS ARE. DO COUNTY.

CAN YOU POINT ME IN A DIRECTION OF WHERE I COULD LOOK TO EVEN START? SURE. HERE'S A LIST OF FIVE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A PEER REVIEW ELEMENT TO THIS. SO ALL RIGHT, IT'S APRIL. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A COUPLE SUPERVISORS INDICATED THEY WANTED THE LIST TO BE REQUIRED. BUT THEN I'VE ALSO HEARD I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID REQUIRED. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I KNOW THE, THE PEER REVIEW WITH THE PEER REVIEW. OKAY. SO HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST. YEAH. HYDROGEOLOGIST LIST REVIEW.

EXACTLY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANTED IT REQUIRED, BUT I'VE BEEN CONVINCED THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL THAT THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO TO REVIEW AND FOR THE REQUEST TODAY, SO I'LL BE LOOKING FOR A BOARD MOTION MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DRAFT WORK PLAN TO UPDATE THE SCHEDULE. AND THEN THE HYDROLOGIST APPROACH THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT ALL HYDROLOGISTS WILL HAVE THE SECONDARY REVIEW BY OUR CONSULTANT. SECOND. OKAY. MOVED. OKAY. GREAT. SO MOVED BY SANDY, SECONDED BY BARAJAS. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. TWO QUICK POINTS. YES, PLEASE.

SORRY, HYDROGEOLOGIST. I JUST PROBABLY PROBABLY YEAH PROBABLY IMPORTANT. JUST A CLARIFICATION.

AND THEN ALSO THE LAST ITEM, IT WASN'T PART OF THE MOTION, BUT WHICH IS FINE, BUT I JUST WANT TO RAISE IT AGAIN, WHICH IS WITH SUPERVISOR BARAJAS ABOUT THAT. THE STAFF HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT SUBMITTED IN PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THEN IF

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THERE ARE ANY POTENTIAL UPDATES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO FOR THE THE NEXT ITEM IN NOVEMBER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HEAR BACK SOME UPDATES THERE. DON'T LOSE THAT THREAD FOR FOLLOW UP. JUST LOOKING AT OUR CIO FOR THAT. THEN FOR. SO WE HAVE THE MOTION REGARDING THE REQUEST D MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I I I. OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR CONTINUED

[26. Action items and reports from members of the Board of Supervisors, including announcements, questions to be referred to staff and reports on various 2x2s and meetings with other agencies. (Board of Supervisors) Legislative Advocacy Ad Hoc Subcommittee update. (Supervisors Frerichs and Allen) Committee on Capital Investments update. (Supervisors Villegas and Barajas)]

WORK ON THIS. WE WILL THEN MOVE TO REPORTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS. FIRST LEGISLATIVE AD HOC THAT IS SUPERVISOR FRERICHS AND MYSELF. WE HAD IT LAST WEEK. I HAVE THE NOTES FROM IT. WE.

LUCAS, DO YOU WANT TO START. DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST READ OFF WHAT THE AGENDA WAS? I THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO RIGHT AHEAD. SURE. SO WE MET WITH THE COUNTY'S LOBBYIST. SO THE FIRM THAT WE WORK WITH FOR RECAP OF THE 2026 LEGISLATIVE YEAR AND THEN PREP FOR THE COMING YEAR, WE IDENTIFIED CORRECTION OF THE COUNTY'S DISPROPORTIONATE CONTRIBUTION TO THE ERAF EDUCATIONAL REVENUE AUGMENTATION FUND. WE REALLY, REALLY WANT THAT AS A FOCUS FOR BY OUR LOBBYISTS FOR THE COMING YEAR, AND ALSO MITIGATION AND SUPPORT FOR COUNTIES FOLLOWING H.R. ONE CHANGES. SO THOSE WERE KIND OF OUR TOP TWO WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IN JANUARY. THAT'S OUR USUAL SCHEDULE OF THINGS. WE DISCUSSED THE CONTRACT WITH THE LOBBYISTS IN LIGHT OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGET SITUATION. AND THEN WE ALSO DISCUSSED ASSEMBLING A LIST OF SHOVEL READY PROJECTS IN ANTICIPATION OF POSSIBLE UPCOMING ONE TIME STATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE DON'T WANT TO MISS ANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT KIND OF LIST. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? JUST ONE OTHER QUICK COMMENT, WHICH IS THAT WE WERE ALSO PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT TRYING TO LIMIT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE ONLY ARE REALLY SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, A VERY SELECT HANDFUL OF BILLS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AT A, AT A MAX, RIGHT? THE KEY IS THE PRIORITIES AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE ERAF ITEM, TRYING TO GET SOME CHANGES THERE. BUT THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT LIKE, LET'S JUST BE FOCUSED AND NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE WILL BE OCCASIONAL THINGS THAT POP UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO GET A, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS COMING FORWARD AND EXTERNALLY AND INTERNALLY THAT SAY, PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL, PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND SO WE MAY END UP DOING A LITTLE BIT OF SUPPORTING OF BILLS, BUT IT'S MORE THE REAL ENERGY IS GOING TO BE ON THE ON THE KIND OF ON THE ERAF ITEM, AND THEN ALSO MITIGATING THE EFFECTS OF H.R. ONE. YEAH, I JUST WANTED AND THAT ESPECIALLY THE, FOR THE, FOR THE PAID LOBBYISTS, LIKE FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS AND THAT WE DON'T NEED THEM TO GO UP AND BE DOING THE ME TOO THING FOR THE, THE LOWER PRIORITY ITEMS. WE SAID WE COULD SEND ONE OF US UP THERE. WE'RE ALL FAIRLY CLOSE, ESPECIALLY YOU. YOU'RE REALLY CLOSE. OKAY, THAT'S THE LEDGE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON CAPITAL INVESTMENTS. VILLEGAS AND BARAJAS. SO SUPERVISOR VILLEGAS AND I MET WITH COUNTY STAFF ON OCTOBER 15TH. WE GOT A ROADS UPDATE. WE'RE WRAPPING UP DONE AGAIN, ROAD PRESERVATION PROJECT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE MADISON. AND THAT BOARD ITEM IS COMING TO THE BOARD EARLY 2027 TO TO APPROVE. WE DID GET AN UPDATE ON THE FREEPORT BRIDGE, LIKE WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY DURING OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE RUMSEY BRIDGE IS DONE. AND EXCEPT FOR THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RAILS ON THE SIDE OF THE BRIDGE FOR THE NEW BRIDGE, AND IT'S TO OPEN SOMETIME NEXT SPRING OF 2027.

ALSO, WE DID DISCUSS ANIMAL SERVICES, THE CLINIC CLINIC IN THE CAN, WHICH WE TOOK ACTION TODAY, AND WE DID DISCUSS BRIEFLY ABOUT THE WALNUT PARK LIBRARY, THE SCHEDULE, IT'S ABOUT 80% COMPLETE. THERE'S SOME HICCUPS. THE GRAND OPENING SHOULD SHOULD HAPPEN SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR, I BELIEVE. AND THEN KNIGHTS LANDING FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT. OUR FIRST PHASE SHOULD BE COMPLETE SOON. BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WE JUST NEED SOME PERMITS WITH SOME SEVERAL LAND OWNER AGREEMENTS. BUT THE PHASE TWO IS THE TOUGH PART. FEMA AND WE NEED 30 MILLION. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET AND WE NEED TO LOBBY. WE NEED TO WORK HARD.

WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN. I KNOW COUNTY STAFF IS WORKING WITH OUR MBK TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO, TO, TO GET PHASE TWO GOING. AND THEN WE TOOK A TOUR OF THE, THE NEW AG BUILDING HERE LOCATED IN WOODLAND AND VIEGAS. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TOUR THAT WE TOOK? GREAT TOUR STAFF. DONE A GOOD JOB. YEAH, I THINK IT'S LONG

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TIME COMING. I THINK OUR STAFF ARE VERY EXCITED. CERTAINLY THE THE FACILITY PROXIMATE TO THE OFFICES IS GOING TO BE SUPER HELPFUL. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. THE STATE OF THE ART FACILITY THAT WE HAVE REALLY DOES LET STAFF DO THE WORK THAT IT NEEDS TO DO. AND I THINK WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT WAS JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE OF OUR STAFF WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND HOW STAFF WORK TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO WORK ORDER CHANGES AND BUDGETARY CHALLENGES, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE FRANKLY, SORT OF IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE BOARD, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE. THEY WORKED WITHIN, THEY PLAYED NICELY IN THE SANDBOX WITH EACH OTHER. AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS SEE THE FACILITY, WHEN WE DO THE GROUND, THE RIBBON CUTTING, I THINK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, IT'S GOING TO REFLECT A GOOD A GOOD COLLABORATIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR STAFF AND LONG OVERDUE, LONG, LONG OVERDUE. SO YEAH. GREAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER REPORTS FROM ANY OTHER MEETINGS ATTENDED? YEAH. SUPERVISOR FRERICHS AND I DID ATTEND OCTOBER 19TH THIS WEEK, THE FARM WORKER HOUSING AD HOC MEETING. I KNOW IT'S THE ITEM IS GOING TO COME TO THE BOARD. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE PARTICULAR SITES IN WOODLAND. WE DID GET AN UPDATE FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF GSD, RYAN CECCHINI. HE'S KIND OF HONING IN ON ONE SITE. THERE'S SOME ISSUE, PERHAPS ON ANOTHER LARGE EMPTY LOT SITE OVER HERE NEXT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND AND ALSO HHS.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME SOME OIL TANKS BURIED UNDERNEATH. THERE HAS THERE HAS TO BE SOME MORE STUDIES DONE. IF WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. IT'S GOING TO COME BACK FOR BOARD ITEM FOR FOR APPROVAL TO GET THE STUDY GOING.

BUT SO HE'S KIND OF LOOKING AT RECOMMENDING TO THE BOARD SOME FARM WORKER HOUSING SITE OVER ON SIXTH AND OAK OR FIFTH ACROSS, BUT WE WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD COME TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD REGARDING THE PLAN. ALSO, WE DID RECEIVE A A PRESENTATION FROM PAUL MUELLER, WHO'S A FULL BELLY FARMS OWNER, REGARDING THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND WHAT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST DOES.

HE'S LOOKING AT HAVING ON TWO PARCELS, SOME DUPLEXES, AND SOME OF THOSE DUPLEXES OBVIOUSLY ARE GOING TO BE PROPPED UP BY PRIVATE FUNDING. AND HE WANTS HOME OWNERSHIP. SO HOME OWNERSHIP, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP ON THAT, ON THOSE PROPERTIES, THOSE PROPERTIES. I THINK IT'S ON THE WILLIAMSON ACT, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS DOABLE FOR FARMWORKER HOUSING. AND HE EXPLAINED, KIND OF LIKE THE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY LAND TRUST. AND SUPERVISOR FRERICHS. AND I ASKED HIM, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THE COUNTY DO BESIDES GIVE YOU SOME FUNDING BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT ON SOME TYPE OF FUNDING. I MEAN, AND HE WAS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST HIS PROJECT IS WE KNOW THAT FARMERS WANT TO BUILD SOME HOUSING ON THEIR PROPERTY. COMMUNITY LAND TRUST ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOING TO BE PERMITTING THAT'S REQUIRED. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MODULAR STREAMLINING OF HOUSING THAT THE COUNTY COULD HELP DEVELOP. AND ALSO THE COUNTY STAFF COULD LOOK INTO PROP ONE MONIES AND GRANTS AND LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO DO SOME COMMUNITY LAND TRUST ON THEIR PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE RECEIVED. JUST INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND SUPERVISOR. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU. THAT'S IT. OKAY, COOL. THAT'S IT. YES. MARY. WELL, ALSO IN THIS VEIN, THE YOLO COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY MET HERE LAST WEEK AND WE HAD AN UPDATE ON THREE PARCELS IN ESPARTO THAT ARE OWNED BY YOLO COUNTY HOUSING, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. AND WE'RE. THEY ARE THE THE COMMISSION VOTED TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. BUILD ON THOSE THREE PARCELS ALSO IF POSSIBLE. IF THE FUNDING IS DEDICATED IN THIS WAY TO PRIORITIZE FARMWORKER HOUSING AS WELL. SO THAT'S EXCITING AND A LOT OF GOOD COORDINATION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT BODIES THAT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE AND BUILD IN THIS DIRECTION. SO GOOD NEWS.

ANY OTHER MEETINGS? OKAY, THEN WE WILL GO TO THE LONG RANGE PLANNING CALENDAR. ANY COMMENTS

[27. Long Range Planning Calendar - recurring opportunity for Board members to discuss and as needed, direct staff regarding future Board agenda items. (Board of Supervisors)]

OR ADDITIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? SUPERVISOR AND STAFF ARE LOOKING AT THE FARM WORKER

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HOUSING ITEM. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S ON THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR. WE COULDN'T FIND IT, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT ACCIDENTALLY BUMPED OFF, BUT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD SOMETIME BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE CAN APPROPRIATELY SCHEDULE IT. SO I'LL LET STAFF DECIDE. YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. I'LL MEET WITH THE TEAM AS A FOLLOW UP TO YESTERDAY'S AD HOC MEETING AND FIGURE OUT THE THE PROPER DATE TO PLUG THAT INTO. IT WAS ON HERE BEFORE. AND YEAH, FOR SOME REASON IT SLIPPED BACK OFF.

THAT MAY BE MY FAULT. SO BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS BACK ON. OKAY, FOLLOW UP FROM OUR ITEM TODAY ON WELLS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. THERE IS AN ITEM COMING BACK TO YOU ON THE 17TH. I BELIEVE IT IS. AND. IS THAT THE FROM THE WORK PLAN THAT YOU JUST APPROVED? WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT ON LONG RANGE UNTIL THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED THE WORK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL UPDATE THE LONG RANGE TO REFLECT THAT. BUT I BELIEVE NOVEMBER 17TH, THERE'S AN ITEM COMING BACK TO YOU. OKAY, GREAT. I DID WANT TO NOTE JUST AS FAR AS LONG RANGE ITEMS. EARLIER IN THE MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT THE IDEA OF A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. SO HAPPY TO IF THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO THE BOARD, WE CAN PLUG THAT INTO LONG RANGE AND START WORKING ON A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THAT COULD BE, WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN. THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 28

[28. Action items and reports from the County Administrator. (Webb) Presidential Executive Order Tracker ]

ITEMS AND REPORTS FROM OUR CIO. I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO REPORT TODAY. THE. EXECUTIVE ORDER PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER TRACKER IS UPDATED, BUT NOTHING NEW TO REPORT. AND AT THE LAST MEETING, I KNOW WE UPDATED THE LEGISLATIVE STATUS LIST OF NEW LEGISLATION IN VARIOUS BILLS.

SO I HAVE NOTHING NEW TO REPORT THIS WEEK, THOUGH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL BE MOVING TO

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